I’ll post the journey I’ve had with Amithlon, from hardware I’ve used, installing issues and tweaks and eventually to compiling the kernel based on Milan’s “Kernel 4” tree. Make sure to visit http://amithlon.snkbitten.com/ for downloads of patches, kernels and miscellaneous files. Lots of internet searches and hardware experimenting to make your journey easier 🙂 – SnkBitten
As I update my installation guides I’ll add details on setting Amithlon up in Oracle’s Virtualbox. It’s very similar to setting it up on a PC, I actually wrote my guides originally while installing in Virtualbox, allowing me to take numerous screen captures.
I had issues over the last few years with new versions of Virtualbox not allowing the network stack to talk outside of itself. After updating to the latest version and installing Roadshow with manual configurations for an IP on my LAN, I am successfully accessing the internet and local resources on my LAN through Amithlon running in Virtualbox.
I’d like to thank user mikk from the EAB forums for encouraging me to work on networking again. Mikk was using the latest version and having success so that gave me a push to try again. As stated above, I previously had internet functioning but after an update of Virtualbox my Amithlon system was unable to connect. This lasted through a number of updates and I gave up on even attempting a network connection.
Windows 10 x64 with Virtualbox 6.0.14, Amithlon with standard updates and Roadshow 1.13.
I was working through my guides while installing Amithlon in Oracle’s Virtualbox. Doing so showed me I needed to add quite a few more steps and do a bit of re-ordering of some steps. I found myself jumping between the Installation Guide, Part 2 of it, the misc notes/information document and some of my own previous blog posts to get a nice standard base configuration. I’ll try to spend some time during the upcoming holiday seasons to to a rewrite. At the same time I’d like to rebuild my main system again. It’s been awhile since installing and I’ve done so many changes I’m not sure what’s what anymore. Kickstart 188.8.131.52, WB 3.9 +BB2 + WB184.108.40.206, etc.. Installed this, removed, installed that, removed and repeat numerous times. I’ll have to take time to record a lot of my settings and configurations before doing that…..so first will come the revised installation guides.
I’ll probably combine all the install guides into one and keep the Kernel and related guides still separate.
Amithlonblog is back! It’s been a few months but hopefully it’s up for good now. I still have some tweaking to do after importing the last backup I had from March 2019. Site software is a newer version and I’m having a little difficulty getting the same look I previously had….plus trying to remember the previous look 🙂
Rendering a scene downloaded from Aminet.net on my Amithlon system. It’s by “Muadib” and he remodeled Sean Kennedy’s Viper MK2 model to work with the Amiga version of Lightwave, and setup a few scenes using the modified model as well as some of his own creations.
This is the scene “ViperMk2_Promo_Flyby.lws” which rendered with the configured scene settings, out to 24bit IFF files in around 5 hours on my Amithlon system. I then converted the frames on my PC from IFF to PNG and compiled them into an .mp4 video.
I side-stepped my 3.1.4 Amithlon setup and decided to use the 3.9 to 3.1.4 upgrade script from Aminet.
I followed the script (definitely don’t execute it on Amithlon) as you need to make sure the appropriate Amithlon files and startup-sequence commands are retained. This provided me with my already configured 3.9, plus Boingbags 1 and 2, with all the updated/upgraded functions of 3.1.4. New libraries, new devices, new drivers….new kickstart. You will need that modified kickstart 3.1.4 (removed battmem.resource and battclock.resource), I had to copy the older printer.device (I’m using netprinter and that may have caused issued with the new one) and the same CacheCDFS system for the CD drive instead of the new CDFileSystem 3.1.4 has.
So far it’s running well, boots faster and I have so much less patching taking place as most of the patches aren’t needed.
Just booted the system off the latest Kickstart 3.1.4 and Workbench 3.1.4. Definitely a bit of effort involved but it works.
I replaced the kickstart in smallird.gz with the A2000 3.1.4 Kickstart and installed WB 3.1.4 in WinUAE to give me the files for setting it up on a partition in Amithlon. Compressing the new sys: partition to an .lha and then uncompressing that on a volume on my Amithlon I was able to boot off Kickstart 3.1.4 and Workbench 3.1.4. I will continue to experiment with it and see how it compares with 3.9. I have a lot to setup/configure still…..
I had been running Lightwave 3d on my Amithlon system and doing a short quick image render was fine, anytime I tried to render an animation after a reboot my system would fail to boot properly and I’d have to format Sys:, and copy over my backup of sys: volume. This was quite annoying and I kept looking for the cause thinking it was Amithlon related.
Nope…..Virus related. After reading a thread on EAB about viruses and what was the best utility I decided to install it and check out my Amithlon system. Yep…..the Lightwave3d files were infected. Whenever I launched Lightwave it would start infecting my system. Checked the backup I had (I have quite a few) that would never copy over properly and discovered it was infected as well. VirusZ cleaned it all and I now check every download before installing/executing 🙂
I haven’t played with Lightwave3d since discovering this so I need to give it a run again and produce something on an “Amiga” in Lightwave. I’ve just been playing so much with Lightwave 2015/2018 on the PC it will be a “releaning” experience. Most of the models I’ve been playing with are too large to load in to LW 5 unfortunately.
If you aren’t scanning your Amiga/Amithlon system for viruses, you might want to start.
This goes out to those using and those who in the past used Amithlon….
Those who use it:
Why do you use it compared to MorphOS or AROS?
What do you like about it?
What do you feel is missing?
Those who stopped using it:
What issues did you have with it to stop using it?
Moved to another OS (MorphOS, AROS) and what did they offer over Amithlon?
It seems there are some common standouts:
1) Hard to find compatible (new) hardware
2) Difficult to install
3) Legality of using it
I’m a huge fan of Amithlon. I love the way it works and how it feels like a real Amiga. The direct communication between AmigaOS and the hardware does give it a different feel than WinUAE (love that too). If it’s possible to move it forward, we’d like to get a feel for what people would be interested in.
Again, looking for input on what makes Amithlon standout for you and/or what makes Amithlon not desirable for you.
The more feedback we get the better we can focus our efforts…..
There are a limited number of supported graphics cards for Amithlon. NVidia, Matrox, ATI and even Voodoo. Some better than others, though it still revolves around older linux 2.4 framebuffer support. Going through the kernel and gathering what we can find, this is the support breakdown for acceleration with each card type. This is information based on kernel 4.
Acceleration options defined in the kernel:
We can definitely see that overall nVidia has the most enabled acceleration functions with the Matrox and Radeon cards each dropping a different function. The Voodoo is the least supported and would be close to standard VESA framebuffer. I’ve not had a functioning PCI Radeon card, I believe AGP cards are the ones that work in Amithlon (based off a few laptops with AGP Radeon cards known to work). Matrox has both PCI and PCIe cards that work and nVidia has both AGP and PCI cards working. I have no feedback from anyone using a Voodoo card with Amithlon.
Still working through what we can, hopefully gaining more insight in to how Amithlon functions with as much specifics/details as possible.